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		<title>Comment on Modern problems by Russell Arben Fox</title>
		<link>http://notfrisco2.com/camassiablog/?p=938&#038;cpage=1#comment-21312</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Arben Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 13:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take care of yourself, Camassia! I hope you get better soon, and that you may be able to return to the blogosphere someday. Send me an e-mail, if you ever want to talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take care of yourself, Camassia! I hope you get better soon, and that you may be able to return to the blogosphere someday. Send me an e-mail, if you ever want to talk.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Muslims, Christians, honor killings, and abortion by Shame and Sex &#124; Junior Ganymede</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shame and Sex &#124; Junior Ganymede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 18:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cannot recommend this essay enough. It&#8217;s all about how the shame culture and the idea of feminine honor that are at the [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Still more shameless speculating about honor by Camassia</title>
		<link>http://notfrisco2.com/camassiablog/?p=928&#038;cpage=1#comment-21305</link>
		<dc:creator>Camassia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post speculating about the relationship between honor and gay marriage was an attempt to articulate [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Allah: A Christian Response &#8212; part 2 by Noli Irritare Leones &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Revolutionary songs, African strongmen, Allah, and college</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noli Irritare Leones &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Revolutionary songs, African strongmen, Allah, and college</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 06:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is blogging again, with a series a series on Miroslav Volf&#8217;s Allah: A Christian [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Allah: A Christian Response &#8212; part 1 by Noli Irritare Leones &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Revolutionary songs, African strongmen, Allah, and college</title>
		<link>http://notfrisco2.com/camassiablog/?p=916&#038;cpage=1#comment-21303</link>
		<dc:creator>Noli Irritare Leones &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Revolutionary songs, African strongmen, Allah, and college</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 06:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is blogging again, with a series a series on Miroslav Volf&#8217;s Allah: A Christian [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Allah: A Christian Response &#8212; part 1 by Camassia</title>
		<link>http://notfrisco2.com/camassiablog/?p=916&#038;cpage=1#comment-21302</link>
		<dc:creator>Camassia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Allah, and you may be wondering what happened to the &#8220;money quote&#8221; I mentioned at the beginning &#8212; the one about how you can be a practicing Muslim and 100% Christian at the same time. So [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Allah, and you may be wondering what happened to the &#8220;money quote&#8221; I mentioned at the beginning &#8212; the one about how you can be a practicing Muslim and 100% Christian at the same time. So [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Muslims, Christians, honor killings, and abortion by Camassia</title>
		<link>http://notfrisco2.com/camassiablog/?p=924&#038;cpage=1#comment-21301</link>
		<dc:creator>Camassia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 01:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Appiah&#8217;s description of the role Christian missionaries played in ending footbinding got me to thinking about what makes [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Allah: A Christian Response &#8212; part 1 by Camassia</title>
		<link>http://notfrisco2.com/camassiablog/?p=916&#038;cpage=1#comment-21300</link>
		<dc:creator>Camassia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 02:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you read my first post on Miroslav Volf&#8217;s new book, you may have thought to yourself, &#8220;This Trinity stuff is [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Allah: A Christian Response &#8212; part 1 by Friday links &#124; A Thinking Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday links &#124; A Thinking Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has the first part of a review of Miroslav Volf&#8217;s interesting-sounding new book Allah: A Christian [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on On rights, entitlement, and being desired by Camassia</title>
		<link>http://notfrisco2.com/camassiablog/?p=912&#038;cpage=1#comment-21298</link>
		<dc:creator>Camassia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the distinction you&#039;re making, but I&#039;m still not totally sold on the idea that a mass defriending could happen by &quot;chance&quot;, unless none of them knows any of the others. Say you&#039;ve got your hypothetical &quot;Judith,&quot; whose friends &quot;George&quot; casually tells her he&#039;d never data women his own age. Judith goes and confides in two of her girlfriends how upset she was by this, and how she won&#039;t be friends with George any more, and they decide they don&#039;t like him much either. And the two girlfriends&#039; husbands notice their coldness towards George, and they figure since they&#039;re married to middle-aged women themselves they don&#039;t really agree with him, so they also start to become estranged from George. And then this one buddy of George&#039;s who&#039;s been angling for a job at one of the husbands&#039; firm notices the anti-George faction forming, and decides he&#039;d rather spend time with them than with George. And then a mutual friend of George and Judith is upset that the old gang is splitting apart, so he goes to George and says, &quot;Dude, your dating policy is really upsetting people. Can&#039;t you just try seeing a woman your own age?&quot; And then he goes to Judith and says, &quot;Can&#039;t you cut George a little slack?&quot;

Now, technically the last guy is the only one directly interfering with the &quot;rights&quot; of George and Judith, but I have trouble seeing him as the transgressor here. Once George and Judith fell out, their friends felt a need to take sides, even though nobody said, &quot;Hey, let&#039;s gang up on George and make him date older women!&quot; That&#039;s why, when we&#039;re talking about informal social norms instead of laws, I have trouble drawing a sharp distinction between what &quot;society&quot; does and what individuals do. And unconscious social norms can be at least as powerful as those overtly held up as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the distinction you&#8217;re making, but I&#8217;m still not totally sold on the idea that a mass defriending could happen by &#8220;chance&#8221;, unless none of them knows any of the others. Say you&#8217;ve got your hypothetical &#8220;Judith,&#8221; whose friends &#8220;George&#8221; casually tells her he&#8217;d never data women his own age. Judith goes and confides in two of her girlfriends how upset she was by this, and how she won&#8217;t be friends with George any more, and they decide they don&#8217;t like him much either. And the two girlfriends&#8217; husbands notice their coldness towards George, and they figure since they&#8217;re married to middle-aged women themselves they don&#8217;t really agree with him, so they also start to become estranged from George. And then this one buddy of George&#8217;s who&#8217;s been angling for a job at one of the husbands&#8217; firm notices the anti-George faction forming, and decides he&#8217;d rather spend time with them than with George. And then a mutual friend of George and Judith is upset that the old gang is splitting apart, so he goes to George and says, &#8220;Dude, your dating policy is really upsetting people. Can&#8217;t you just try seeing a woman your own age?&#8221; And then he goes to Judith and says, &#8220;Can&#8217;t you cut George a little slack?&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, technically the last guy is the only one directly interfering with the &#8220;rights&#8221; of George and Judith, but I have trouble seeing him as the transgressor here. Once George and Judith fell out, their friends felt a need to take sides, even though nobody said, &#8220;Hey, let&#8217;s gang up on George and make him date older women!&#8221; That&#8217;s why, when we&#8217;re talking about informal social norms instead of laws, I have trouble drawing a sharp distinction between what &#8220;society&#8221; does and what individuals do. And unconscious social norms can be at least as powerful as those overtly held up as such.</p>
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