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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 17:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jose--
You mention those of &quot;nascent&quot; faith.  Presumably, such people have been exposed to the Truth.  We all have our portion of the Truth within our hearts.  It is God&#039;s will whether or not that interior Truth will resonate with Truth encountered in the world and faith thus cemented.  If what resonates with the world is that which is false within us, that, too, is God&#039;s will. He chooses to close some ears; He chooses to blind some eyes; He chooses to harden some hearts.  Many are called, but few are chosen. God&#039;s will be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jose&#8211;<br />
You mention those of &#8220;nascent&#8221; faith.  Presumably, such people have been exposed to the Truth.  We all have our portion of the Truth within our hearts.  It is God&#8217;s will whether or not that interior Truth will resonate with Truth encountered in the world and faith thus cemented.  If what resonates with the world is that which is false within us, that, too, is God&#8217;s will. He chooses to close some ears; He chooses to blind some eyes; He chooses to harden some hearts.  Many are called, but few are chosen. God&#8217;s will be done.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 16:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jose:
What I am saying is that it&#039;s not a numbers game.  It doesn&#039;t matter if DVC effects all the dire things that people fear it will cause.  The truly faithful will remain faithful; they will be immune to the lies the book tells.  The nominally faithful are not really in Christ to begin with; and some who are totally ignorant of Christ on a personal level will have their curiosity piqued by a phenomenon such as DVC, look into it more deeply, encounter the truth, and be brought into the faith.
If the nominally faithful fall away, the fall is only apparent, since what they are falling away from is false and lie they are telling themselves.  But they can&#039;t lie to God; DVC will only have moved them from one lie to another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jose:<br />
What I am saying is that it&#8217;s not a numbers game.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if DVC effects all the dire things that people fear it will cause.  The truly faithful will remain faithful; they will be immune to the lies the book tells.  The nominally faithful are not really in Christ to begin with; and some who are totally ignorant of Christ on a personal level will have their curiosity piqued by a phenomenon such as DVC, look into it more deeply, encounter the truth, and be brought into the faith.<br />
If the nominally faithful fall away, the fall is only apparent, since what they are falling away from is false and lie they are telling themselves.  But they can&#8217;t lie to God; DVC will only have moved them from one lie to another.</p>
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		<title>By: JosÃ© Solano</title>
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		<dc:creator>JosÃ© Solano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 03:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Rob.  Any attack on Jesus Christ can and should be turned into an &quot;opportunity&quot; to proclaim the truth of Christ.  If you read over what I have said from the beginning you should see that I&#039;m talking about something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Rob.  Any attack on Jesus Christ can and should be turned into an &#8220;opportunity&#8221; to proclaim the truth of Christ.  If you read over what I have said from the beginning you should see that I&#8217;m talking about something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 19:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, clipped from the &quot;Disputations&quot; site, is a perfect example of what I&#039;m talking about:

101 Questions &amp; Answers on The Da Vinci Code and the Catholic Tradition, by Nancy de Flon and Fr. John Vidmar, OP. &quot;De Flon and Vidmar not only show where Brown went wrong, but they also unlock the doors (that Brown ignored) to the treasure rooms of the Catholic tradition and they display for the reader the wealth of people, customs, and events that comprise Catholic identity. Far more than a mere Da Vinci Code &#039;debunker,&#039; 101 Question and Answers on The Da Vinci Code and the Catholic Tradition serves as celebration of Catholic culture that uses The Da Vinci Code as its springboard.&quot;

All of the general interest in things relating to Jesus Christ generated by DVC can be seen as an opportunity, and turned to the advantage of the Church.  Or, DVC can be seen only as an unfair attack and shrilly decried from a fruitlessly defensive posture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, clipped from the &#8220;Disputations&#8221; site, is a perfect example of what I&#8217;m talking about:</p>
<p>101 Questions &amp; Answers on The Da Vinci Code and the Catholic Tradition, by Nancy de Flon and Fr. John Vidmar, OP. &#8220;De Flon and Vidmar not only show where Brown went wrong, but they also unlock the doors (that Brown ignored) to the treasure rooms of the Catholic tradition and they display for the reader the wealth of people, customs, and events that comprise Catholic identity. Far more than a mere Da Vinci Code &#8216;debunker,&#8217; 101 Question and Answers on The Da Vinci Code and the Catholic Tradition serves as celebration of Catholic culture that uses The Da Vinci Code as its springboard.&#8221;</p>
<p>All of the general interest in things relating to Jesus Christ generated by DVC can be seen as an opportunity, and turned to the advantage of the Church.  Or, DVC can be seen only as an unfair attack and shrilly decried from a fruitlessly defensive posture.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 23:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jose--
First of all, I don&#039;t think that the Word *can* be undermined.  You can set things up next to it, but you can&#039;t touch its truth.  The faith of an individual, therefore, if it is founded in Truth, will not be harmed by any of the books, whether fiction, or purported scholarship that you mention. If it is not founded in truth, it is not true faith.  Even in true faith, doubt is inevitable, even healthy, since it leads to soul-searching, and, ultimately, to strengthened faith.  
So, no, I don&#039;t agree that DVC is a threat to faith.  If it is a threat to anything, it is a threat on to statistics--that 80% figure that Camassia threw out above.  If 80% of all Americans profess to be Christians, so what?  What percentage of that 80% are true disciples of the Lord?  And how likely is DVC to negatively affect their faith?  I&#039;m not interested in Christianity as a percentage of market share, but as a way of life, and a mode of being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jose&#8211;<br />
First of all, I don&#8217;t think that the Word *can* be undermined.  You can set things up next to it, but you can&#8217;t touch its truth.  The faith of an individual, therefore, if it is founded in Truth, will not be harmed by any of the books, whether fiction, or purported scholarship that you mention. If it is not founded in truth, it is not true faith.  Even in true faith, doubt is inevitable, even healthy, since it leads to soul-searching, and, ultimately, to strengthened faith.<br />
So, no, I don&#8217;t agree that DVC is a threat to faith.  If it is a threat to anything, it is a threat on to statistics&#8211;that 80% figure that Camassia threw out above.  If 80% of all Americans profess to be Christians, so what?  What percentage of that 80% are true disciples of the Lord?  And how likely is DVC to negatively affect their faith?  I&#8217;m not interested in Christianity as a percentage of market share, but as a way of life, and a mode of being.</p>
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		<title>By: JosÃ© Solano</title>
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		<dc:creator>JosÃ© Solano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 19:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Rob, with respect to what I&#039;m actually saying, do you think that the DVC is more harmful to people in the faith or people outside of the faith?  Or, is there no difference? 

Your point is different from the one I&#039;m making but don&#039;t you think that the truth of Christ has been virtually hollered from the rooftops for a very long time?  Isn&#039;t it more a problem of rejecting the truth than not knowing it?  Do not writings like the DVC provide them more suppositions and rationalizations to reject the truth?  Shouldn&#039;t we be trying to refute all rationalizations and justifications for denying Christ or does providing the &quot;infidels&quot; â€”speaking literally and not pejorativelyâ€” misinformation and outlandish claims about Christ help them come to Christ?  

Should we encourage Dan Brown to write more fascinating misinformation because &quot;those brought into the faith would still represent a net gain for the ranks of the faithful&quot;?  I suppose books on witchcraft, etc., would therefore also provide a &quot;net gain&quot; because they relate to the supernatural and negatively to God.  

It would be interesting if your number count were right but I don&#039;t think it works that way.  More would come to the faith without Dan Brown&#039;s book, or Pagels&#039; and Ehrman&#039;s books.  And without the latter two more would stay in the faith. 

P.S.  After writing the above I heard Elaine Pagels on Talk of the Nation.  She affirmed what I am saying through her defense of the DVC.  She is emphasizing &quot;the truth&quot; in the DVC to undermine the biblical and orthodox account of Christ and Christianity.  It was acknowledge that Dan Brown relied on her book The Gnostic Gospels for much of the DVC.  It is this kind of fiction, coupled with distorted scholarship, that will undermine the Word, the Truth, being transmitted to those outside of the faith.  With her solid support of the DVC it will not be so simple for the ignorant to see through the Dan Brown myths and receive the faith.

For more of the truly harmful Pagels perspective see Pagels&#039; , &quot;The truth at the heart of `The Da Vinci Code&#039;&quot; at http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/editorial/14633739.htm

For a sound expose of the Pagels tactics see Paul Mankowski, S.J of the Pontifical Biblical Institute, Rome: &quot;The Pagels Imposture&quot; at http://www.cwnews.com/news/dossier/view.cfm?id=34</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Rob, with respect to what I&#8217;m actually saying, do you think that the DVC is more harmful to people in the faith or people outside of the faith?  Or, is there no difference? </p>
<p>Your point is different from the one I&#8217;m making but don&#8217;t you think that the truth of Christ has been virtually hollered from the rooftops for a very long time?  Isn&#8217;t it more a problem of rejecting the truth than not knowing it?  Do not writings like the DVC provide them more suppositions and rationalizations to reject the truth?  Shouldn&#8217;t we be trying to refute all rationalizations and justifications for denying Christ or does providing the &#8220;infidels&#8221; â€”speaking literally and not pejorativelyâ€” misinformation and outlandish claims about Christ help them come to Christ?  </p>
<p>Should we encourage Dan Brown to write more fascinating misinformation because &#8220;those brought into the faith would still represent a net gain for the ranks of the faithful&#8221;?  I suppose books on witchcraft, etc., would therefore also provide a &#8220;net gain&#8221; because they relate to the supernatural and negatively to God.  </p>
<p>It would be interesting if your number count were right but I don&#8217;t think it works that way.  More would come to the faith without Dan Brown&#8217;s book, or Pagels&#8217; and Ehrman&#8217;s books.  And without the latter two more would stay in the faith. </p>
<p>P.S.  After writing the above I heard Elaine Pagels on Talk of the Nation.  She affirmed what I am saying through her defense of the DVC.  She is emphasizing &#8220;the truth&#8221; in the DVC to undermine the biblical and orthodox account of Christ and Christianity.  It was acknowledge that Dan Brown relied on her book The Gnostic Gospels for much of the DVC.  It is this kind of fiction, coupled with distorted scholarship, that will undermine the Word, the Truth, being transmitted to those outside of the faith.  With her solid support of the DVC it will not be so simple for the ignorant to see through the Dan Brown myths and receive the faith.</p>
<p>For more of the truly harmful Pagels perspective see Pagels&#8217; , &#8220;The truth at the heart of `The Da Vinci Code&#8217;&#8221; at <a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/editorial/14633739.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/editorial/14633739.htm</a></p>
<p>For a sound expose of the Pagels tactics see Paul Mankowski, S.J of the Pontifical Biblical Institute, Rome: &#8220;The Pagels Imposture&#8221; at <a href="http://www.cwnews.com/news/dossier/view.cfm?id=34" rel="nofollow">http://www.cwnews.com/news/dossier/view.cfm?id=34</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 16:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It seems to me that the DVC may be more harmful to people outside of the faith than to those in the faith.&quot;

I don&#039;t see it that way.  It seems to me that if completely secular people--of which type there are many in our society, despite the nominal 80% theist poll number--develop an interest in the topic Jesus and Christian history because of reading this book, or seeing its film adaptation, some of them will be drawn into further reading.  In the course of that further readin, they are almost certain to encounter the truth, along with all the rest of it.  If the Spirit moves them, then, they may actually be brought by this route *into* the faith. If some only have their unbelief strengthened by DVC and its repercussions, those brought into the faith would still represent a net gain for the ranks of the faithful.  I see it as an opporunity, rather than as a wholly negative phenomenon for the cause of Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It seems to me that the DVC may be more harmful to people outside of the faith than to those in the faith.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see it that way.  It seems to me that if completely secular people&#8211;of which type there are many in our society, despite the nominal 80% theist poll number&#8211;develop an interest in the topic Jesus and Christian history because of reading this book, or seeing its film adaptation, some of them will be drawn into further reading.  In the course of that further readin, they are almost certain to encounter the truth, along with all the rest of it.  If the Spirit moves them, then, they may actually be brought by this route *into* the faith. If some only have their unbelief strengthened by DVC and its repercussions, those brought into the faith would still represent a net gain for the ranks of the faithful.  I see it as an opporunity, rather than as a wholly negative phenomenon for the cause of Christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: JosÃ© Solano</title>
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		<dc:creator>JosÃ© Solano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 05:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that the DVC may be more harmful to people outside of the faith than to those in the faith.  People immersed in &quot;new age&quot; thinking may have their highly creative imaginations further activated to consider ever more bizarre scenarios as historical and religious &quot;possibilities.&quot;

The writers that are truly harmful to people of nascent faith are authors like Ehrman and Pagels, even as they may criticize the historical details of the DVC.  They are the ones coming on as providing definitive historical and scholarly research to undermine the biblical and orthodox account of Jesus Christ and Christianity.  We would do better to zero in on their misleading interpretations than focus too much on Dan Brown&#039;s manifestly preposterous intimations.  These will soon blow away even if he sells lots of entertaining books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that the DVC may be more harmful to people outside of the faith than to those in the faith.  People immersed in &#8220;new age&#8221; thinking may have their highly creative imaginations further activated to consider ever more bizarre scenarios as historical and religious &#8220;possibilities.&#8221;</p>
<p>The writers that are truly harmful to people of nascent faith are authors like Ehrman and Pagels, even as they may criticize the historical details of the DVC.  They are the ones coming on as providing definitive historical and scholarly research to undermine the biblical and orthodox account of Jesus Christ and Christianity.  We would do better to zero in on their misleading interpretations than focus too much on Dan Brown&#8217;s manifestly preposterous intimations.  These will soon blow away even if he sells lots of entertaining books.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 03:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Camassia:
Perhaps you&#039;re right.  But my anecdotal evidence consists of the fact that where I work (a state university), nobody has ever brought the book up in my presence.  Nobody has brought up the movie.  Three of the five people in my immediate area, and several of the other people with whom I come in contact daily, are Catholics; none of them are talking about DVC in either genre.  I contrast this with Mel Gibson&#039;s movie, about which everybody was talking, and about which everybody had an opinion at the time it was playing.
The current New Yorker Magazine has an article about DVC in it, which purports to explain, at least in part, the various machinations behind the strength of the controversy, where the controversy rages.  I can only report that it&#039;s not raging among the folks with whom I interact in the real world.
There have been many books over the years that have questioned the divinity of Christ.  I remember one non-fiction book that must have been published when I was in high school, entitled &quot;The Passover Plot&quot; that was a best-seller.  I read that at the time, but I don&#039;t remember it shaking my faith any more than DVC has.  At any given time, there are dozens of books on the market that question the divinity of Christ.  I really think that the fuss over DVC is a combination of good marketing and the ill-conceived over-reaction of the RCC which has given DVC more titillating publicity than it deserves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Camassia:<br />
Perhaps you&#8217;re right.  But my anecdotal evidence consists of the fact that where I work (a state university), nobody has ever brought the book up in my presence.  Nobody has brought up the movie.  Three of the five people in my immediate area, and several of the other people with whom I come in contact daily, are Catholics; none of them are talking about DVC in either genre.  I contrast this with Mel Gibson&#8217;s movie, about which everybody was talking, and about which everybody had an opinion at the time it was playing.<br />
The current New Yorker Magazine has an article about DVC in it, which purports to explain, at least in part, the various machinations behind the strength of the controversy, where the controversy rages.  I can only report that it&#8217;s not raging among the folks with whom I interact in the real world.<br />
There have been many books over the years that have questioned the divinity of Christ.  I remember one non-fiction book that must have been published when I was in high school, entitled &#8220;The Passover Plot&#8221; that was a best-seller.  I read that at the time, but I don&#8217;t remember it shaking my faith any more than DVC has.  At any given time, there are dozens of books on the market that question the divinity of Christ.  I really think that the fuss over DVC is a combination of good marketing and the ill-conceived over-reaction of the RCC which has given DVC more titillating publicity than it deserves.</p>
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		<title>By: Camassia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camassia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 01:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There are differences between â€œUncle Tomâ€™s Cabinâ€ and â€œDVCâ€, the most of obvious of which is that UTC was given to the public in the midst of an already hugely important and on-going controversy that directly affected the lives of nearly every American in very concrete ways. Moreover, UTC did not deal with speculative mysteries about the distant historical past, but with current events.&lt;/i&gt;

It does affect the present, because about 80% of America is at least nominally Christian, and the book&#039;s claim is that Christianity is essentially a hoax. Christianity is a faith based upon historical events, so historical claims are highly relevant to it. It goes to claims about God himself (or herself) who is a matter of present concern as much as ever. 

&lt;i&gt;One last difference would be the relative impact of books on society in the 19th century and before, when the written word was the sole mass medium, and today, when the written word, especially as published on paper, has become more of a still, quiet voice.&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe, although fewer people were literate then so it may come out in the wash. At any rate, it&#039;s a movie now.

&lt;i&gt;What I view as the â€œhystericalâ€ over-reaction of the RCC, has gotten the controversy some TV time, but in the non-Catholic world, does the furor really even exist?&lt;/i&gt;

Sure it does. Several of the anti-DVC books were written by non-Catholics, such as the aforementioned Bart Ehrman and Ben Witherington. In fact, in the debate between Ehrman and Richard Hays that I mentioned earlier -- which was held at Duke, hardly a Catholic bastion -- one of them says, if we&#039;d advertised this as a debate about the historical validity of Scripture twenty people would have showed up, but we say it&#039;s about the Da Vinci Code and look, there&#039;s standing room only! The huge Episcopal church where Hugo works is also hosting some big discussion about it soon. Back when the book came out somebody &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.westmont.edu/~work/clutter/2003_09_01_archive.html#106373498863874490&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;accosted Telford&lt;/a&gt; about it. And of course, the woman at my lunch table brought it up totally unbidden. So yeah, I would say this has generated some debate outside of Catholicism.

&lt;i&gt;People with a scholarly interest in religion know DVC for what it is: an entertainment. People whose faith is shaken by it obviously had faith that needed to be shaken and rebuilt into something stronger.&lt;/i&gt;

I think it is good that the public discussion seems to be educating people, but I would add that it&#039;s only because of what you think is a hysterical overreaction that anybody actually &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; being educated. And yeah, it would have been nice if people already knew the history of their own religion well enough so this wouldn&#039;t be a challenge, but on the other hand most of us lean on cultural consensus about a whole lot of subjects. I don&#039;t think every generation needs to re-argue the case for heliocentrism, or discover again why Newton&#039;s physics beat Aristotle&#039;s, or debate the germ theory of disease. I don&#039;t think that the fact that many Christians have leaned on cultural consensus a certain amount is really a problem with their faith, it just indicates that those arguments were thought to have been settled.

&lt;i&gt;But my guess would be that most people are either merely entertained by the book, or indifferent to it, or have never taken notice of its existence at all.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, my experience is anecdotal, but it sounds like yours is largely guesswork, so this may not be an issue that can be settled here. However, the experience with the woman at lunch jives with a lot of my experience of Americans and pop culture, which is that nobody really wants to admit that it affects them, but it still plants things in their heads. I don&#039;t know what the long-term effect of DVC will be, but the overall point I was getting at was that a culture&#039;s stories are an important part of its collective consciousness, so I would never dismiss something out of hand as being &quot;just&quot; fiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There are differences between â€œUncle Tomâ€™s Cabinâ€ and â€œDVCâ€, the most of obvious of which is that UTC was given to the public in the midst of an already hugely important and on-going controversy that directly affected the lives of nearly every American in very concrete ways. Moreover, UTC did not deal with speculative mysteries about the distant historical past, but with current events.</i></p>
<p>It does affect the present, because about 80% of America is at least nominally Christian, and the book&#8217;s claim is that Christianity is essentially a hoax. Christianity is a faith based upon historical events, so historical claims are highly relevant to it. It goes to claims about God himself (or herself) who is a matter of present concern as much as ever. </p>
<p><i>One last difference would be the relative impact of books on society in the 19th century and before, when the written word was the sole mass medium, and today, when the written word, especially as published on paper, has become more of a still, quiet voice.</i></p>
<p>Maybe, although fewer people were literate then so it may come out in the wash. At any rate, it&#8217;s a movie now.</p>
<p><i>What I view as the â€œhystericalâ€ over-reaction of the RCC, has gotten the controversy some TV time, but in the non-Catholic world, does the furor really even exist?</i></p>
<p>Sure it does. Several of the anti-DVC books were written by non-Catholics, such as the aforementioned Bart Ehrman and Ben Witherington. In fact, in the debate between Ehrman and Richard Hays that I mentioned earlier &#8212; which was held at Duke, hardly a Catholic bastion &#8212; one of them says, if we&#8217;d advertised this as a debate about the historical validity of Scripture twenty people would have showed up, but we say it&#8217;s about the Da Vinci Code and look, there&#8217;s standing room only! The huge Episcopal church where Hugo works is also hosting some big discussion about it soon. Back when the book came out somebody <a href="http://www.westmont.edu/~work/clutter/2003_09_01_archive.html#106373498863874490" rel="nofollow">accosted Telford</a> about it. And of course, the woman at my lunch table brought it up totally unbidden. So yeah, I would say this has generated some debate outside of Catholicism.</p>
<p><i>People with a scholarly interest in religion know DVC for what it is: an entertainment. People whose faith is shaken by it obviously had faith that needed to be shaken and rebuilt into something stronger.</i></p>
<p>I think it is good that the public discussion seems to be educating people, but I would add that it&#8217;s only because of what you think is a hysterical overreaction that anybody actually <i>is</i> being educated. And yeah, it would have been nice if people already knew the history of their own religion well enough so this wouldn&#8217;t be a challenge, but on the other hand most of us lean on cultural consensus about a whole lot of subjects. I don&#8217;t think every generation needs to re-argue the case for heliocentrism, or discover again why Newton&#8217;s physics beat Aristotle&#8217;s, or debate the germ theory of disease. I don&#8217;t think that the fact that many Christians have leaned on cultural consensus a certain amount is really a problem with their faith, it just indicates that those arguments were thought to have been settled.</p>
<p><i>But my guess would be that most people are either merely entertained by the book, or indifferent to it, or have never taken notice of its existence at all.</i></p>
<p>Well, my experience is anecdotal, but it sounds like yours is largely guesswork, so this may not be an issue that can be settled here. However, the experience with the woman at lunch jives with a lot of my experience of Americans and pop culture, which is that nobody really wants to admit that it affects them, but it still plants things in their heads. I don&#8217;t know what the long-term effect of DVC will be, but the overall point I was getting at was that a culture&#8217;s stories are an important part of its collective consciousness, so I would never dismiss something out of hand as being &#8220;just&#8221; fiction.</p>
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