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March 31, 2006

Brush up your elocution

Filed under: Personal stuff — Camassia @ 1:55 pm

There have been a number of interesting comments on my “catechumen” series, both here and on other blogs, which I’d like to respond to when I get a shot. I don’t know when that will be, but I just wanted you all to know I’m not ignoring you.

I did get a chance to talk to our interim head pastor about all this a few days ago. She said a practice they sometimes followed, which might be helpful to me, would be to pick someone at church as a sort of mentor. Said person would not be responsible for answering all my questions, but would “walk with me” through the process. “They would also help you work out your testimony,” she added. “You can try it out on them before you speak to the congregation.”

I said, “Uh … testimony?”

I’d never heard about delivering testimony at your baptism, and she was surprised that I was surprised, since she’s been a Mennonite all her life. The only baptisms I’ve seen were Lutheran and Anglican, which followed programmed rites (and were done to infants in any case), and at Christian Assembly, which ripped through 21 of them in one service and therefore kept talking to a minimum. But apparently it’s standard practice for Mennonite baptizees to testify what Jesus is doing to their life or something.

I shouldn’t be surprised, though, because Mennonites testify for everything. At child blessings, at membership ceremonies, at “sendings” when people leave, the person always has the chance to take the mike and say whatever they want. I usually find it kind of dull, frankly, but I figure if they want to talk, let ‘em talk. I don’t know that I’d even want to talk, though, and I don’t know how it would be received if I didn’t. The mentor concept is probably a good one though, except that I don’t know who should do it. I told the pastor I’d think about it and get back to her, but I have not felt any particular leadings anywhere.

An interesting side note: I learned that the church’s practice of open communion is very unusual in the denomination. Apparently it’s a Jim Brenneman innovation, which not everybody in the church likes. I asked her if it might change now that he’s gone. She gave me a slightly alarmed look and said, “One thing at a time.”

March 29, 2006

Questions of a catechumen: sex and violence

Filed under: Personal stuff,Religion and sex — Camassia @ 11:47 am

In the previous two posts, I covered in a broad way why the “countercultural” vision of Christianity that the Duke school presented appealed to me more than the mainstream version I’d encountered elsewhere. I mentioned also that the two major places where the school diverged from mainstream orthodox Christianity were, broadly speaking, pacifism and gender. I’ve been asking myself why those two subjects are so important to me, seeing as the rationalist in me isn’t convinced that the Dukies actually have the better line on what Jesus actually thought. The questioning also made it clear to me, for the first time, how related these two issues are for me.

Let’s start with the pacifism. Like I said earlier, I came to this not long after 9/11. And my reaction to 9/11 was not pacifist. I did not believe that, even if the U.S. should somehow remake itself as impossibly virtuous, that would change the hearts of people who had already configured their worldview with the U.S. as the root of all evil. So the reaction of a lot of the lefties I knew seemed unrealistic. That there should be some war on terrorism seemed inevitable.

But something was bothering me. Irving Kristol famously said that a neoconservative is “a liberal mugged by reality.” What is meant by “reality” in that line is the ugliness and evil of the world. But the metaphor I would use for 9/11 isn’t so much a mugging as a kidnapping. “Reality” didn’t just take something and run off; it cut off alternatives, it began to reshape the country I was in, it began to reshape who I was. The fact that a formerly unspeakable subject like torture, for instance, came to be discussed as a reasonable option so soon (and as I recall, it was very soon) showed just how much “reality” was shaping principles. Unlike some people I knew, I didn’t think people were just crazy to think this. The problem was that it actually made sense.

None of this became clear to me, however, until I could see an alternative. And that alternative said that there is a deeper reality behind “reality”, the reality of God’s kingdom coming to earth. That is the reality to which we could conform our behavior. And that is what offers the freedom from the prison that the world’s evil creates. The reality of the Constitution and other sources of earthly freedom, I knew, aren’t really enough to stand up against the things that really, truly threaten people. Only a greater, more cosmic assurance, that goes on after death, could do that.

Probably every Christian reader I have would agree with what I just said, but not every Christian reader I have is a pacifist. Why do I have to be such an extremist about it? I guess it’s because the two realities look so starkly different to me, that I see no middle ground. No doubt the violence in Christian history itself has something to do with it. And maybe I’m still trying to prove myself to the old hippies in my past. But I think it also has to do with the role of the warrior/guardian in society, and that’s where gender comes into the picture.

One phenomenon that 9/11 also really highlighted is how much, in a situation like that, society lionizes its heroes: the soldiers, firefighters, police and the like. And to a great extent, they deserved it, by bravely risking or sacrificing their lives for others. That in turn creates a sense of obligation on the part of others in society to support them as much as possible.

There’s nothing wrong with this, except for one thing: that entire guardian role depends on the existence of evil, that “reality” that Kristol talked about. It defines the guardians’ job, it defines their worth to society, and if they’re not careful, it can define them. And that sense of social obligation that they create means that society is always tempted to cede power and decision-making to the people who are most defined by the presence of evil. I truly believe that this is why military men keep gaining political power in the world, more than their simple ability to force their will on others.

Now, some of the old hippies I mentioned deal with this by denying that there is any reality to Kristol’s “reality”, that war is a sort of scam perpetuated by the warrior classes to keep themselves in power. I don’t believe this. But it is true that our enemies are generally other warriors, and sometimes warriors from opposing camps come to resemble each other, and even respect each other, more than they do civilians of their own tribes. (An underrated Shakespeare play, Coriolanus, illustrates a lot of stuff I’m talking about here, showing just how old this all is.) And so long as guardianship is specialized to one group — as it almost invariably is — that group will have a vested interest in evil continuing, because that is how they derive their social worth.

But long before any armies or fire departments were organized, guardianship was specialized to a group called “men.” Again, I don’t really have a problem with the basic concept: given the sexes’ physical attributes along with the realities of pregnancy and nursing, that man should be the defender and woman the nurturer seems natural enough. But all the hazards I just described for society as a whole also apply to interpersonal relationships — more so, I think, because we’re going beyond paying work and into basic identity.

For one thing, being the guardian has generally equated with man being the one dealing with the outside world, which has historically often turned into man being the only one who really knows much about the outside world, and therefore the only sex suited to public life. This isn’t as big an imbalance in kin-based societies where family life has a huge impact on public life (which is virtually all societies except the modern West), but it does tend to devolve into theories that women aren’t just sheltered but incapable of certain modes of thought. More importantly, though, it means that the identity of the genders and their relations to each other are rather strongly shaped by fear.

Consider the Garden of Eden. What would Adam have defended Eve against? Not much. And since heavy physical labor wasn’t laid on Adam until after the Fall, the other great male role, provider, would not have been as gender-specialized either. So it’s not surprising that the curse that men will rule over women also wasn’t laid until that point.

Of course, we don’t live in the garden of Eden. But it does suggest that sex roles that stem from female vulnerability and male guardianship are transient things that should be worn lightly. I think that the problem I have with people touting traditional gender roles is that they seem to like this a bit too much. The roles of protector and protected, of provider and provided-for, are sometimes portrayed as not mere necessities of a fallen world but essential features of self that ought to be embraced.

I realize I’m swimming upstream here, because some of this dynamic might even be wired into our brains. Certainly it’s eroticized. What (straight) man hasn’t had a fantasy about rescuing a pretty girl? What (straight) woman hasn’t had a fantasy about being rescued? It also, I think, keeps us women being attracted to guys who project power and strength, which is of course potentially dangerous if said strength gets turned against us.

How all this works into church life is a knotty question. Since the very beginning of the church, it’s been collectively feminine, with even male Christians having a sort of wifely relationship to Jesus. Pacifists take this to the extreme: God is the only guardian for us. But it does have mucky implications for the sexes. What are men, with that role taken away from them? Do they bring anything to society that women don’t?

The church has traditionally solved this problem by only letting men be ordained. But of course, that’s never really the stated reason. Some Catholics have told me it’s because the priest plays the role of Christ in communion, but that doesn’t explain why all the other levels of the church hierarchy have to be male. (Actually, I heard somewhere that there’s theoretically nothing to stop the Pope from appointing female cardinals, since they don’t have to be ordained. But I’ll leave that for Catholics to sort out.) Recently Jason Rust and I discussed the weird passage in the New Testament that seems to most decisively rule out female church authority, where Paul argues that a) man was created first, and b) Eve was deceived, and Adam wasn’t. There are a lot of ways you can read that, but the second point at least sounds like the whole “women don’t really know how to deal with the world out there” line that I mentioned a few paragraphs ago. Possibly he’s trying to set men up as guardians against heresy (a line I’ve heard favoring the maleness of bishops elsewhere).

The pacifist in me says this is too defensive a way of forming the church; it should be fearlessly imaging the Kingdom, and not creating a warrior class of spiritual defenders (even if they are nonviolent about it). And the modern woman in me says, if there was a time when women were too naive and sheltered for leadership, that’s not true any more. But I also wonder if I’m asking too much of the church. After all, living that way in the first few centuries got a lot of them killed; when Constantine extended his protection, there was barely a protest against the whole “under this sign conquer” thing. Still, I’m having trouble seeing much of a middle ground.

March 24, 2006

Questions of a catechumen: civilization’s discontents

Filed under: Ecclesiology,Personal stuff — Camassia @ 12:09 pm

Thanks for all the supportive comments to my last post, as well as the encouragement to keep writing about it. It might jog me out of the languid once-a-week-if-that pattern of blogging I’ve fallen into lately.

I left off mentioning that I was initially drawn into Christianity by the “evangelical catholic” approach of the Duke school, and that I remain attached to it even though I see its potential problems. When I think back to when I first encountered it three and a half years ago, I think a lot of what appealed to me was the way it positioned the Christian community in relation to the state and the culture at large. This is one area where it borrowed heavily from the Mennonites, and so it takes a position of more “apartness” from both those entities than more mainstream traditions have.

Why does this matter to me? There are a lot of reasons, but when I think about it I realize I shouldn’t underestimate the impact on me of growing up in the shadow of the counterculture. To be born in the U.S. in 1971 is to come into a nation in deep conflict with itself. To grow up in the San Francisco area is to live practically in ground zero of that conflict.

My parents’ attitude toward the counterculture was always ambivalent. Neither one of them remembered the ’50s with any sort of nostalgia — my mother, especially, didn’t like being female in that environment — so they were not terribly bothered that the old order changed. But neither one of them really participated in it either. My mother did a civil-rights march or two, but for the most part they lived conventional upper-middle-class lives. Probably the biggest way it affected them was somewhat indirect: that they eventually divorced and my mother later moved in with a man without marrying him. That probably wouldn’t have happened to a family like mine before the ’60s, but it’s not “counterculture” per se.

Anyway, I grew up with this similar sense of belonging neither to the counterculture nor what was quaintly called the Establishment. To some extent in Marin in the ’70s and ’80s the counterculture was the establishment, as perhaps epitomized by my high-school chemistry teacher who used to play his Grateful Dead tapes in the background during labs. I always sympathized with the ideals of the counterculture but I was also always kind of square, especially in the compared to the libertinism that filtered down to the second generation.

My sense of alienation from both sides of the culture war increased after 9/11. I think now that it was no coincidence at all that my interest in Christianity flared up while America was in its post-9/11 fever dream. And I think when I was reading Telford describing the Duke school’s ecclesial vision of Christians as a community within the culture but not of it, honoring the authorities and guardians of earth but placing their faith only in the authorities and guardians of heaven, I saw what the counterculture should have been, the pieces it had been missing all along that made me unable to really believe in it. To bring Jesus into the picture gave order and shape to the counterculture’s fuzzy utopianism; replaced its self-indulgence with discipline; replaced the mandate to re-engineer society with a trust in the direction of history; excised the sex and drugs and romanticizing of Communist thugs. Going to PMC made this vision more concrete. I remember saying to somebody after I went there that seeing a church full of people who were so much like the ones I grew up around, and yet profoundly different, told me that my subculture could also be redeemed by Christ.

Of course, all this personal history raises the question of how much I’m actually seeing some transcendent truth, and how much I’m still trying to impress the folks back home. I have to admit that even though what I’m doing is a pretty radical thing to my family, I can see a lot of ways that being a Mennonite serves to justify me to the elders and peers of my youth. It’s a way of saying I’m still cool even though I don’t do drugs and sleep around, that I have political principles even though I feel mostly at sea in worldly politics, that I’m intellectual even though I’ve always had this flighty mystical streak. The Christianity of old Europe, that largely built the Establishment in the first place, would not accomplish all this; neither would completely checking out of Western culture and joining a convent in Korea, for instance. How much of all this is about God, and how much about me and my personal issues?

One thing that’s been interesting about meeting Christians of various stripes, however, is that I’ve seen how not only Mennonites feel this way. Even people in the oldest of churches seem to feel that being a Christian in America is to be at once both culture and counterculture. Conservative evangelicals insist that America is a Christian nation yet feel constantly beleaguered by mainstream culture. Catholics are the biggest single sect in the world but they watch both political leaders and average citizens ignore the exhortations of their popes. And despite the commanding Christian majority in America, anyone who opts out of premarital sex or abortion or general consumerism is going to feel themselves swimming against the cultural tide.

That’s the peculiar paradox of “tradition” in our society: the whole idea of tradition, of the unbroken chain that passes along social values through the collective unconscious, has become impossible. Even “traditional values” have become a conscious pose, things to be adopted and defended rather than received. Maggie Gallagher pointed this out in writing about the crunch cons:

There is something movingly pathetic in watching the Drehers drive through different religious identities, for example, searching for one that “fits.” Worshipping at a Lebanese Maronite (Catholic) Church, for example, because they like the taste of ancient tradition, even if they are neither Lebanese nor Maronite. Tradition itself becomes a kind of consumption item, to be produced and consumed by crunchy cons.

A true traditionalism would not be represented by people who move to Dallas, buy a nice bungalow and invite friends over for tasty organic cooked food. It would be led by people who advocate returning to the place you were born, where your kith and kin also live, because that is really where you belong, the thing in which your very self is rooted.

One reason Rod cannot do this, by his own account, is that he doesn’t have any such native tradition.

Neither do I. I can’t go back to where kith and kin live, because they no longer live in one place. And so no matter what I do (as Lee pointed out in a comment to my last post), I cannot be traditional. I can’t just receive a tradition; I have to decide what I believe. And this goes for church as much as anything else. A while ago I linked to an article in which Rusty Reno found himself in exactly that logical pretzel: he developed a theory as to why he should not assert his sovereign individualism by leaving his church, and then he realized that staying there was really being loyal only to the theory he’d developed. No matter what he did, there was no escaping the position of standing in judgment over any church’s doctrine.

All of this is a long way of saying that if Jesus has the power to redeem us traditionless people at all, it makes sense that he would redeem through the counterculture rather than expecting Western society to somehow repent of the whole thing and pick up as if nothing had happened. And I do derive some comfort from the fact that the first Christians probably felt the same way. That’s also why I sympathize with evangelical catholics’ belief that the church of ancient Rome provides a more useful model today than the medieval vision of a timeless natural social order. I think Yoder had a point that even where the New Testament seems to be declaring such an order, as in Romans 13 and Ephesians 5, it raises the question of why it is being declared in the first place. It goes against the nature of received traditions to spell them out like that; they should be simply assumed. More likely, then, those words were consciously posed against something else, and therefore cannot be removed from the stream of time and context.

As to what they were being posed against, well, there are a lot of theories about that. But certainly I feel that church’s position more than the church whose leaders anointed kings (and were often related to them), or churches who feel America once belonged to them and they have to take it back.

March 21, 2006

Questions of a catechumen

Filed under: Ecclesiology,Personal stuff — Camassia @ 8:10 pm

Oy, it’s been a rough Lent so far. I’ve been sick for a lot of it, though now I’m finally starting to feel human again. I gave up alcohol, which has proven to be much harder than last year’s discipline of going vegan. But probably what’s stressing me out the most is thinking about baptism.

I’ve had this vague intention, maybe more like a hope, that I would get baptized this Eastertide. Easter is the traditional time to do it, and so it became a sort of informal goal. I’ve even idly fantasized about how I’d like to do it, whom I’d invite, and that sort of thing. (This being an Anabaptist rite, there is some flexibility on this.) But the arrival of Lent has made this much more immediate, and brought on the need for some serious preparation. And it’s raised a lot of stuff I’ve been kind of avoiding.

As the few people who’ve been reading my blog from the beginning would know, I’ve changed a huge amount in the last three-plus years. I started out as a curious skeptic about Christianity, and now I sound indistinguishable from a Christian — indeed, sometimes I hear myself sounding downright dogmatic. But when it comes to it, my persona on this blog does not tell the whole story. I’ve had doubts about a lot of things, and I still have them. Some of it relates to personal matters that I don’t want to discuss here; but perhaps it will help me to discuss what I can. (Since there’s more than one issue going on, maybe this will turn into a series.)

One perpetual question I have, which I have sometimes brought up here, is: what is the true church? This an important question for a lot of reasons. For one thing, although the baptismal question of whether I accept Jesus as my lord and savior (or however Mennonites put it) seems like a straightforward yes-or-no option, the underlying question is exactly who this Jesus is that I commit myself to. Since I don’t know him personally, and since the Bible is too sketchy and weird to form a complete picture (sorry, sola scriptura fans), I need the help of some interpretive tradition. And this seems to be the way Jesus meant for it to be. As Lesslie Newbigin pointed out: “Jesus in his ministry took no steps to provide a written body of teaching. He created a community which would be enabled by the Spirit, after his death and resurrection, to grow into an ever fuller understanding of him and his message, and so to live as children in his Father’s house.”

The second reason is that, as the Lutheran hymn goes, “We are standing on the promises of God.” The church, as Christ’s bride, received a specific set of promises from Jesus; that his spirit would always been with her, that the gates of hell shall not prevail, etc. That doesn’t mean that no one outside the church can receive God’s protection or spirit actions — even in the Bible this happens — but the church is the only entity (after Israel) that actually gets a guarantee.

Of course, you’re going to get a lot of different opinions about what the true church is. Because I was brought into Christianity in the first place by Telford and the Duke mafia, I’ve mostly been exposed to the belief that the true church is actually the whole body of Christendom, sadly fractured but still the Bride. (Newbigin, whom I quoted earlier, was one of the big proponents of this.) I’ve long had trouble with this idea because it creates and image of God that’s so incoherent. I wrote about this at some length here (and now that I look back on it, I see I was already thinking about it in terms of baptism). I think there are some internal conflicts with the Duke school’s “evangelical catholicism”, as they call it, mainly that it defends a sort of Great Tradition view of the church while hewing to some positions that are definitely in the minority as far as tradition is concerned, like pacifism and women’s ordination.

One way to square this problem is to simply go with the “catholic” side of that argument, and say that the only valid church is one that can trace its existence all the way back to Jesus. There’s a lot to be said for that, especially given the promises from Jesus to the church that I mentioned earlier. I don’t give much credence to long-dead sects like Gnosticism or Arianism, however amusing it might be to defend them from what textual evidence there is, simply because God’s promises don’t mean much of anything if he lets his bride die off like that. A similar difficulty comes up with claims that seem to have the true church disappearing for centuries at a time, only to reappear at the Reformation or even later. Somehow, those sorts of claims make God less trustworthy, less like our adoptive father and more like an elusive, shifty character testing people to see if they’re smart enough to ferret him out of the alleged distortions of the mainstream tradition. I don’t see much support for such code-hunting in the texts themselves, however. Jesus said the meek shall inherit the earth, not the clever.

Still, the “continuists” have their own problems. There are at least two churches that can plausibly trace their history back to Jesus — more, if you count the eastern monophysite sects (and I don’t see why not). And while God may seem less trustworthy if he is hiding within texts, there are also obvious trust issues with a God who allows the sort of corruptions and abuses within his church that led to the Reformation to begin with.

For me, I think the problem is that there are just some things in those churches that I can’t swallow. I don’t expect to be convinced of Jesus’ divinity as an objective fact, so part of my baptismal query to myself is more subjective: is this who I want to follow? Is this what my soul tells me is Truth? The evangelical catholic view, though I see its flaws, is still what drew me, and I am loath to give it up. In my next posts, I’ll go into some specific issues to explain what I mean.

March 13, 2006

From the lion’s den

Filed under: Church life — Camassia @ 4:50 pm

The Mennonite World Conference has been meeting in Pasadena these last few days, and a number of delegates from exotic climes visited our church yesterday morning. A couple of them addressed the congregation including a Vietnamese pastor whose name I didn’t catch, so henceforth I will call him VP.

Back when I first arrived at PMC I came into the middle of the saga of the “Mennonite Six,” a group of Vietnamese Mennonite church officials who were imprisoned by their government a couple years ago. The Vietnamese government apparently requires that all churches get official approval before they can worship, and have refused approval to the Mennonites. I don’t know exactly why, but apparently church leaders have criticized the government for human-rights abuses and religious repression, which probably has something to do with it. So, as VP described it, the church has been very New Testament about it all, meeting secretly in people’s kitchens and attics. The government sent undercover agents to spy on them, however, and a crackdown began. (The group Compass Direct has been tracking Vietnam’s harassment of Mennonites here).

VP was also thrown into the hoosegow for a while, but somehow he escaped to Cambodia. (I’m a little fuzzy on the details here; he was speaking through a translator, so it was a little hard to follow.) In the meantime, churches around the world, including PMC, offered their support and started pestering public officials. Eventually the government relented and released all of them, but not without damage. One woman was tortured so badly that she suffered a breakdown and wound up in a mental hospital.

Not surprisingly, despite the language barrier the congregation was spellbound. Listening to him talk, I also found myself thinking, this dude really believes in the power of prayer. I mean, most Christians I know believe in it, but there’s believing and believing, if you know what I mean. We Westerners, I think, have a certain practical frame of mind that says praying for the Vietnamese is nice but the business end of it is our letter-writing and political arm-twisting that leads to more direct results. But VP didn’t mention any of that, at least not that I remember. Instead, he thanked us for our prayers, and asked us repeatedly to keep praying for the Vietnamese church and the people in it, “so that we may bring God’s word to all 53 of Vietnam’s ethnic groups.”

It reminds me of a certain ambivalence I have on the matter. In my experience prayer has done good things for me, but they always seem to be interior sorts of things, so it’s difficult to say whether it’s really God intervening or just a weird but sometimes fruitful mind game that I play with myself. And there does seem to be a tendency among more intellectual Christians to see prayer as a bit more like meditation than like an action that can effect change in far-distant places like Vietnam. I don’t know exactly how VP believes that prayer works, but maybe only by inviting the action of the Spirit through prayer do we even know how to solve problems like that, or do others listen to us.

Of course, the church was also dealing with the fact that we’ve been praying for those CPT folks all along too, and one of them just turned up dead. Hearing both the bad news and the good, the prayers answered and unanswered, only deepened the great mystery of it all.

March 9, 2006

You can’t keep a good blogger down

Filed under: Blogwatches — Camassia @ 10:41 am

The relative old-timers around here (that is, those who go back at least two years) may remember Sursum Corda, the blog of devout Catholic and all-around good dude Peter Nixon. Now Peter is back as a member of Commonweal magazine’s new group blog. In a word: cool!

March 2, 2006

The blog made flesh

Filed under: Church life — Camassia @ 10:10 am

My church got a visit from Lynn on Sunday, which she wrote about here. Despite the fact that she’s co-hosted my blog for two-and-a-half years, and we’ve exchanged emails, Christmas cards, and a phone conversation, this was the first time I’d met her in person. (Easterners unused to the West’s wide-open spaces may figure we live right near each other, but actually there’s a good seventy miles between my place and hers.) So it was great to finally have an in-person visit with her.

There were a few things that were unusual about Sunday. One, it was the weekend of the men’s retreat, so a bunch of our Y-chromosome-endowed members were missing. There was no Wess, which was too bad since he would have been a good source on the whole Quaker/Mennonite relationship, and there was also no John, which was a little odd for me since he’s become such a familiar part of the church experience — I felt almost naked sitting in the pew without him. However, hosting Lynn through the after-church confab and lunch took my mind elsewhere.

Another thing that was different was a point Lynn mentioned in passing: there were two hymnals. Previously there was just one, a joint Mennonite/Brethren hymnal (conveniently, since we rent a Brethren church) that was compiled in (I think) the early 1980s. It includes some old standards that mainline Protestants will recognize, by folks like Isaac Watts and the Wesley brothers, some newer standards like Taize songs, some African-American spirituals, a few Anabaptist-specific songs (but I gather there aren’t really a lot of those), and a smattering of exotic hymns from Africa and Latin America. The new hymnal is called Sing the Journey, and although I haven’t got much of an impression of it from one service’s worth of use, it seems to be full of new hymns aimed with a kind of socially liberal Christian outlook. The title itself indicates this (“journey” seems to be as much a ubiqitous buzzword in parts of Christianity as “solutions provider” was in ’90s business). And the lyrics, which as Lynn pointed out tended to focus on the “way of the cross”, tended toward a modern view of social action. At one point we sang a list of disciple activities including “making new systems,” which I must admit almost made me laugh: I got this image of Jesus saying, “Take up your cross and make new systems!” and it wasn’t quite working.

But anyway, there was another reason the hymns we used had that focus, which was that Bert was preaching. The hymns are chosen to go with the sermon, and the way of the cross is what he always preaches about. And his vision of the way of the cross includes a lot of social action, so the hymns reflect that. It was a somewhat unusual sermon from him though, perhaps because he was dealing with such an out-there supernatural Bible passage. When I told John later that Bert had talked about the need for an ecstatic experience of the Spirit that “makes you crazy”, he said he really wanted to get this on video, because I gather he and Bert have been having a running argument about the importance of personal spiritual experience. (Bert comes from a charismatic Southern Baptist background, and has been reacting against a lot of its excesses.)

By the way, I note that Dave Breuner has returned after a longish absence and printed a nice sermon on the same passage.

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